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post Jul 31 2013, 02:39 AM
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QUOTE(guggiey @ Jul 30 2013, 10:36 PM) *

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Alright, and how does one earn our trust? By giving them a chance, keep her as an intro for an extended period of time to prove her worth, she has access to very little.

This goes for more than just her, if we suspect someone as being sketchy make them earn our trust by giving em a prolonged intro process. Otherwise we're turning away potentially good members with no way of them really proving themselves.



one person is not gonna make or break use we have 10 other intros we have to worry about.


As I said it's more than just her, stop looking at people as 3 more opts. If they're going to show up to EVERY trip, P2P included then they're worth a lot more than "3 more ops". I'm not saying this just for one person, in general we've gotten too paranoid over ROT spies and stuff.

@She wasn't allowed on TS when she was in Castle she was kicked off.

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Talked to ArabPopcorn, he said that he was skeptical with bball and zamorak. (not very high)

He also mentioned that Woonscape would be stupid to spy for rot if he nudes got leaked.

He also said Die Nub Plz was legit, and someone should talk to him to talk to the KO guys.
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post Jul 31 2013, 02:47 AM
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QUOTE(Geezer @ Jul 30 2013, 06:39 PM) *

QUOTE(guggiey @ Jul 30 2013, 10:36 PM) *

QUOTE(Geezer @ Jul 30 2013, 06:35 PM) *

Alright, and how does one earn our trust? By giving them a chance, keep her as an intro for an extended period of time to prove her worth, she has access to very little.

This goes for more than just her, if we suspect someone as being sketchy make them earn our trust by giving em a prolonged intro process. Otherwise we're turning away potentially good members with no way of them really proving themselves.



one person is not gonna make or break use we have 10 other intros we have to worry about.


As I said it's more than just her, stop looking at people as 3 more opts. If they're going to show up to EVERY trip, P2P included then they're worth a lot more than "3 more ops". I'm not saying this just for one person, in general we've gotten too paranoid over ROT spies and stuff.

@She wasn't allowed on TS when she was in Castle she was kicked off.


i was there in castle with her she never asked to join. idk about her being kicked off as i wasnt paying attention to ts.

ive said what i had to say. if you guys think its a good idea then accept her intro
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post Jul 31 2013, 03:07 AM
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Hi Amy, I appreciate you posting and offering help with stuff. I don't really have anyone to tell me when pk's are going on or fun events. I was hoping you could PM me in IRC when things happen or direct me to some other friendly members who I can get to know smile.gif. Thanks again.

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post Jul 31 2013, 03:08 AM
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QUOTE(Amy @ Jul 31 2013, 03:07 AM) *

Hi Amy, I appreciate you posting and offering help with stuff. I don't really have anyone to tell me when pk's are going on or fun events. I was hoping you could PM me in IRC when things happen or direct me to some other friendly members who I can get to know smile.gif. Thanks again.

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he didnt even intro
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post Jul 31 2013, 03:26 AM
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EEK! Correct, mistype. smile.gif It was Chron.
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post Jul 31 2013, 05:38 AM
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I've still to read through them all but decided to have a look on EOC to see if the names checked out;

Shawn|Wizerd - http://www.di-rs.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=101375
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Previous Display names: G Wizerd G

Previous name showing as africanbeast- maccready's old acc? Maybe he bought the account or might be something fishy going on here.


Woonscapa - http://www.di-rs.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=101379
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Previous Display names: Bluebirdy15, Mafaca, Velios, Resign sally, Woonscapa, Nexilicous, and Gentoos.

Eoc lists his previous name as "downcasts" which hes not listed in his previous names. Checked his old intro aswell and it never mentioned it there either.

Pophemroid - http://www.di-rs.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=101421
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Previous Display names: Pophemroid (someone took this name for god knows what reason) Poppy Jr

Previous name showing up as - god im with

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post Jul 31 2013, 06:05 AM
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i dont trust any of them, especially after this zlat fiasco

but all the ko apps are high risks
Gcliff doesnt seem to be loyal to anyone in rot that i know of
and that woonescape girl is just trouble
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post Jul 31 2013, 06:29 AM
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QUOTE(Anthony @ Jul 30 2013, 03:11 PM) *

Woonscapa is who I'm worried about Ive known her for awhile and I know she still loves "lightinite" from RoT and would spy for him if he told her they could get back together. I thought she had changed a little bit but after being on ts with her I know she is still obsessed with him. Also she can be blackmailed easy. First time she introed I PMed Brian about this and still feel the same way about it.



If this is true then she shouldn't even be considered. What happened today with the castle and TS?


Gcliff has spent a lot of time in our CC but he seems like the type of person that would spy if he was pressured enough to do it.

June 25 was the last day Zamarok has flamed on forums. Since then, the majority of his recent posts are have been one liners. It might be him trying to make a good impression but it's worth investigating. If he was active in single it's worth finding out if he pk'ed with anyone else outside of his clan.
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post Jul 31 2013, 11:27 AM
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QUOTE(ximmortal @ Jul 30 2013, 10:29 PM) *

QUOTE(Anthony @ Jul 30 2013, 03:11 PM) *

Woonscapa is who I'm worried about Ive known her for awhile and I know she still loves "lightinite" from RoT and would spy for him if he told her they could get back together. I thought she had changed a little bit but after being on ts with her I know she is still obsessed with him. Also she can be blackmailed easy. First time she introed I PMed Brian about this and still feel the same way about it.



If this is true then she shouldn't even be considered. What happened today with the castle and TS?


Gcliff has spent a lot of time in our CC but he seems like the type of person that would spy if he was pressured enough to do it.

June 25 was the last day Zamarok has flamed on forums. Since then, the majority of his recent posts are have been one liners. It might be him trying to make a good impression but it's worth investigating. If he was active in single it's worth finding out if he pk'ed with anyone else outside of his clan.




well right now she doesnt have accress to ts and she was asking anthony all day for the pass. respect to anthony for following the rules and not giving it to her.

as for the castle situation. i came late to the pk and loged in at castle. she was there in castle in gear. i went and stood with her for 3 mins waiting to see if she would att me or ask to pk with use she didnt do anything but just move around.

we continued to portal around and returned to world 2 where we killed some people at portals. wooscappa came out of castle and then went back in and still decided not to join use after she saw we where clearly on a pk. thats as much info i can give.
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post Jul 31 2013, 11:46 AM
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not really inclined to trust the KO guys, but nothing really concrete.

also from whats posted this woonscape girl doesnt seem particularly worth it, not sure how she will prove herself
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post Jul 31 2013, 11:58 AM
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QUOTE(insertname @ Jul 31 2013, 07:46 AM) *

not really inclined to trust the KO guys, but nothing really concrete.

also from whats posted this woonscape girl doesnt seem particularly worth it, not sure how she will prove herself


I've said it multiple times, if we don't trust someone we should prolong their intro and make them prove their worth. Make her, gcliff KO guys stay an intro for a longer period of time if need be, otherwise we're turning away someone because there is a chance they could eventually spy which could be said for quite a bit of our members as well

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post Jul 31 2013, 11:17 PM
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I genuinely don't think people in ROT would leak her photos, me and anthony have enough to get either of them kicked if they were to even do so and I doubt they'd want to do such. I think there is a bigger risk with her then any of the other intros but I don't think it's enough to just fully black her out of the clan, let her earn your trust.


When I asked her about it


-19:50:44- ‹Woonscapa› i have no reason to lie.. ask die nub and arab... i had everything put about me on rot boards and mattyb offered to take it down(even if he was lying) if i spied on them. i said no instantly and toldthem what happened.. my whole life was on thereand i still didnt do it. doesnt that say anything?

DNP/Arab have confirmed this story as well

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post Aug 1 2013, 12:28 AM
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I don't know, I feel we have to take some gambles now. Not huge ones but there isn't a huge selection out there.
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post Aug 1 2013, 08:51 AM
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I feel its dragging on a bit too much so for now as a stop gap measure if someone (council, but share the load out a bit, don't take them all) gets all the intros listed HERE (not the ones we haven't discussed) set up with TS and IRC that will at least keep them interested. We don't want people losing interest cause its taking too long.

You'll probably find some of them never get back to you which is fine we just don't give them the intro rank then.

When you've pmed someone to get stuff set up post here (so multiple people don't pm them). When they've set stuff up post here again and I'll set them up with intro rank.

About the two concerns raised here:

Gcliff: I doubt hes a risk. Hes more AG than RoT and we have a lot of ex-AG here.
Woonscapa: We've taken bigger risks and yes we have been burned before and we will be burned again. We could potentially decline everyone because we don't trust them unless they were like EX-DI or whatever. She'll probably have to put in extra work to be allowed apply and if there is an incident where we get hit then she'll be the first to get kicked pretty much.
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