Protecting Ourselves, From NH Options

[@Brian]

Well its kinda obvious NH have alot of tricks to "set up" Di members and we've seen it happen all too often in the past. Ive got nothing I can do against it though. I MUST keep our rules as they are set out. I cant make a change to the rules, or read it differently in each case. So yea, suggestions to protecting our members?

[King Woodly]

Really no way to protect ourselves from the tricks they set up. Only thing I can see us doing it adjusting the punishments a bit with the vids provided. Normally its one fuck up on vid and your kicked. Making it 2 (at most) might be a bit better for those who fall into the trap the first time, once they've fallen for it once they'll probably be extra careful the second time.

We can also stress to DI members to be extra careful around NH people since they are always out to get us and maybe posting the rules somewhere easier accessible for members to look at whenever they want. (sticky in general chat for members maybe)

Edit :

Ah musta took you're question the wrong way. If you mean at mb then really the only thing would be for our members to be alot more alert while out there. Another thing would be to get another spy within those NH clans like DKM had. Only way to protect ourselves out there is to be extremely aggressive by constantly crushing all their attempts and the only way to do that is by spying on them.

The best defense is a great offense

Btw my first suggestion is still out there lol.

This post has been edited by King Woodly: Apr 3 2007, 09:02 PM

[mynameisjoe5]

Like at mb? Not sure exactly what would be the best way to stop them there...They have tons of scouts, pk in groups as large as us/larger, and pray/log/1item vs us.

It is also extremelydifficult to kill them considering they all will pray tb, melee nonstop, and most still take 6-8 brews as if it wasn't hard enough to kill them in 2.5minutes with melee pray. The only chance of us getting kills against them is if they have a mage, but that is still pretty difficult.

Not sure what we can do because if we take out a large group of people, they won't pk to our numbers drop, and when we do fight them its difficult as it is to kill them. Maybe if we could fight them in multi more, but then again like last time its still difficult because in multi any of our mages get raped to death by tons of 1 itemers allowing them the advantage of mages while we don't.

Possibly something could be done with rsd to help eliminate them because atm they are growing pretty rapidly and ag+nr+their future apps is over 200 people I believe? And they are very attractive towards new 110s-120s just entering the wild and looking to gain some pixels. Everytime they do good vs us they are just making it more difficult for us in the future.

Anyways:

be really sure you know who ag/nr/their friends are so you don't end up following them far away and getting gang banged by 45 ops on you

if your piled don't say "help!! get them off me!" on ts. Say your rsn and location And repeat it a couple times. That way people who miss what you said have a chance to hear it again. Its really hard for me to be able to match everyones voice to a rsn, and then to be able to find outwhere they are and I am sure that is a problem for alot of other people. Also If you are being piled, and you aren't praying back because they aren't but you still need help, put on the red smite prayer. The mb gets really crowded sometimes and its hard to see where you are.

Carry alot of brews if you haven't already, use stairs, karil tops. If we run into them and you are going to be banking don't get tank, get mystic. It takes alot of time to change completely to melee, and if we do get a number advantage and have a chance to kill them, we have 15 meleers, and 3 mages.

Another problem is we get koed insanely too often. Everytime we fight them even if we outnumber 3:1 somehow we still manage to have 2-3 people die for whips and Ahrims I don't really understand it.

Tanks really really need to pay attention. We lose countless kills imo because tanks don't attack the rangers or other tanks coming to rescue a guy. If your a tank, maybe just stand at lever and hit every guy you see that comes up that doesn't get tbed. Don't let a guy get outside of webs without being attacked: that way the mages can get kills outside without constantly being hit off.

Also when exactly can we leave the fights against them? We are not going to kill a 120 who comes up praying tb, or melee, with 8 brews.

This post has been edited by mynameisjoe5: Apr 3 2007, 09:42 PM

[@Brian]

I meant protect ourselves in regard to the rules, like people being set up for praying on a video and kicked.