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post Jul 16 2006, 01:53 PM
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Why is racism not ok, yet sexism is?

Getting sick to death of certain people degrading women in every post they make.
Certainly our warlords and leaders should not be encouraging it, let alone instigating it.

Please stop it.
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post Jul 16 2006, 03:39 PM
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post Jul 16 2006, 04:12 PM
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post Jul 16 2006, 11:08 PM
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Dont wanna name names, but yea Ive seen certain high ranked officals do it lately. Women play just as an important part of this clan as men do.
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post Aug 17 2006, 10:02 PM
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post Aug 18 2006, 06:14 AM
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I've seen it, I always get shanked by asshole guys for chicks irl and they treat them like shit I treat all girls I meet on rs with the respect I give them irl


apart from chazvhull
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post Aug 18 2006, 08:59 AM
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I've seen it, I always get shanked by asshole guys for chicks irl and they treat them like shit I treat all girls I meet on rs with the respect I give them irl


apart from chazvhull


Chaz obviously has a penis.
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post Jan 25 2007, 08:17 PM
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shouldnt this be bumped huh
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post Jan 25 2007, 09:19 PM
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Guess I can't make any types of comments towards females or w/e anymore to make the 3 females in our clan feel better. Since no matter what I say someone out there will feel offended.

http://www.di-rs.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=28203

Oh and thats the topic Lyncea got offended over. The women can't drive joke is a very common joke over here in the states at least. Most females don't even get offended over it since they take it as what it is. A joke. Plenty of black jokes thrown around all the time, hell even I throw some around, but I don't go on a crusade about it asking people to stop since I know they're joking, same way I jokingly make those jokes with them, doesn't make me a racist either or them.

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post Jan 25 2007, 09:25 PM
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QUOTE(King Woodly @ Jan 25 2007, 04:17 PM) *

Guess I can't make any types of comments towards females or w/e anymore to make the 3 females in our clan feel better. Since no matter what I say someone out there will feel offended.

honestly, it's not right, it shouldnt matter how many females are in this clan, and yes, when you cross the gender line with the jokes almost alot of the time, it gets old pretty quickly, even offensive when it gets too repetitive, but i dont see how you think this is right in this kind of setting. yea, ok, we only have 3 females in this clan, does it matter? and if you expected more, well maybe this kind of shit sets us back? i don't know, but whether we have 3 or 50 females, the jokes shouldnt be made anyways, we don't allow racism, so sexism shouldnt be allowed aswell

another reason why your jokes about "females can't pk", just look at the female fa's. rells, declined twice? roselinor, declined twice? you make these jokes, whether theyre jokes or not anyways, and people get the impression that they cant pk and they vote no

you think these jokes are harmless, but theyre more damaging than you think. we're deterring good members away because some people can't treat a person the same whether they have a penis or a vagina

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post Jan 25 2007, 09:35 PM
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QUOTE(dkm- @ Jan 25 2007, 04:23 PM) *

QUOTE(King Woodly @ Jan 25 2007, 04:17 PM) *

Guess I can't make any types of comments towards females or w/e anymore to make the 3 females in our clan feel better. Since no matter what I say someone out there will feel offended.

honestly, it's not right, it shouldnt matter how many females are in this clan, and yes, when you cross the gender line with the jokes almost alot of the time, it gets old pretty quickly, even offensive when it gets too repetitive, but i dont see how you think this is right in this kind of setting. yea, ok, we only have 3 females in this clan, does it matter? and if you expected more, well maybe this kind of shit sets us back? i don't know, but whether we have 3 or 50 females, the jokes shouldnt be made anyways, we don't allow racism, so sexism shouldnt be allowed aswell


There are plenty of race related jokes thrown around but no one gets in trouble since no one means them seriously. Honestly what I said isn't the type of thing women are going to march or cry over. Its really just nit picking or w/e. You say I do them all the time but your free to go through all the post I make and show me how many times have I made jokes towards females? Most my jokes are made towards the guys in this clan since I see how sensitive females are or w/e. I don't run around calling them whores or bitches, do I put them down in that way? I don't ever say it like that. I could understand if I were doing it like that and people got offended or upset but I'm not and probably never will do that.
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post Jan 25 2007, 09:45 PM
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ok look, the females are a minority in this clan, and when they take shit like that, i don't think they can handle it much. besides, the race jokes aren't even as bad, i mean, i could go up to some irish guy and be like, "go pick potatos", and easily he can come back at me and be like "oh you live in an igloo". the race jokes aren't really offending anyone

--but when you go out on a limb and criticize their pk skills? totally different story , look here:

http://www.di-rs.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=28203

you make yourself look like a complete goof, and look at the people agreeing with you, turned it to a whole fucking circus

and look, this topic was made back in july, yet theres another post about it january? i dont care if you make a million jokes to guys and a few to females, you're still discriminating against them. ok you dont go around calling females whores and bitches, but if you have a right way with words, it could just hurt as much

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post Jan 25 2007, 10:09 PM
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QUOTE(dkm- @ Jan 25 2007, 04:43 PM) *

ok look, the females are a minority in this clan, and when they take shit like that, i don't think they can handle it much. besides, the race jokes aren't even as bad, i mean, i could go up to some irish guy and be like, "go pick potatos", and easily he can come back at me and be like "oh you live in an igloo". the race jokes aren't really offending anyone


Thats really not a valid arguement seeing as females can crack on guys just as easily as guys can crack on females. I could say the same if I went up to a female and cracked a joke they could just as easily go ahead and crack a joke on me for being a guy. So the jokes towards females "aren't even as bad" either.

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--but when you go out on a limb and criticize their pk skills? totally different story , look here:

http://www.di-rs.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=28203


Did you even bother reading the first line of her post? She knew i'd crack it since shes always cracking jokes on the guys and I come right back and crack a joke on the girls. Its not like the first line was edited in. She knew I wasn't being serious.

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you make yourself look like a complete goof, and look at the people agreeing with you, turned it to a whole fucking circus

and look, this topic was made back in july, yet theres another post about it january? i dont care if you make a million jokes to guys and a few to females, you're still discriminating against them. ok you dont go around calling females whores and bitches, but if you have a right way with words, it could just hurt as much


I looked just fine on the thread really. I can't control other peoples actions. If the guys agreed seriously about it then its them not me, my second reply to the thread even says it had nothing to do with one being more skillful then the other but it seems as if everyone ignores that post. People use the word discrimination too freely, have I ever tried to keep a female out of this clan that wanted to join? Im probably one of the most friendly and supportive towards them. You or anyone else are free to ask them what they think of me. Most of the time is females trying to keep other females out while me and other guys are trying to get them in.

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Just to let you know, I have no issues with following the rule. I just don't like it that people want to label me sexist over a joke that I made. If the guys are no longer allowed to make jokes towards the females, fine. So be it. But at least make it so the females aren't allowed to make jokes about the guys either just so its fair. Guy makes jokes on females? Striked. Female makes jokes on the guys? Striked. Its only fair.

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post Jan 25 2007, 11:24 PM
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QUOTE(King Woodly @ Jan 25 2007, 09:17 PM) *

Guess I can't make any types of comments towards females or w/e anymore to make the 3 females in our clan feel better. Since no matter what I say someone out there will feel offended.


Yea no shit you cant. What right do you have to make comments towards other groups of members in this clan? No one does, not even I do. You dont comment on other groups, no one does, period. Its just like someone singling out someone else for being part of another group. How would you feel if you were one of the three females in this clan, and you had some people picking on you and singling you out. I most certainly know that women dont do this kind of thing to men, around here at least, or not any that I know. This isnt the 1950s, were all equal. You know im also aware that you werent the only one carrying out this kind of behavour, dont think im singling you out, but YOU ARE A WARLORD. ACT LIKE ONE. People are looking up to you as a role model, your supposed to be setting an example, but look what you start on topic's.

You dont get it, its not in relation to a specific topic, its not about this topic, that topic, its the way you carry on in general, its been something going on for quite a long time now, and Ive just had enough of it. That was the original point of THIS topic, and its what, half a year later? Guess what, it STILL goes on.

Do you ever think how you make females in this clan feel? Do you ever stop and think for a minute how much of an asshole you make yourself look like? You know most of the women in this clan and the women that have been in the clan over the years have dedicated themselves extremely hard to Di, and whats your thanks? lol Fuck you. How would you feel after attending a 9 hour fight, or losing your bank FOR THE CLAN, that you cannot pk, that you are useless? Well congratulations your little "Women can't pk" post made them all feel like shit im sure, but hey whatever, you think its acceptable to post shit like that, go ahead, keep doing it, lol, I might aswell just all tell them leave now. I dont care if a female made that topic, or a non Di female aswell for that matter, your still representing Di, especially in your rank, and look at the fucking bandwagon you started with your complete jackass comment. Yes Im aware someone was bound to say it, but a Di warlord? I expected better. Now you set an example that its ok to treat women like this, meaning I had to go and correct it. Thanks for that.

Im done here now with this topic, as far as im concerned this issue is done and dusted, the damage was done and what happened happened, but im telling you this, im not asking, im telling, anymore of this kind of putting down of females, or for that matter any group of people, by someone of your rank, this applies to anyone with a rank also, will be requested to leave the clan.
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