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Posted by: Solo Mission Nov 3 2016, 12:35 AM
Is it true that Protein shakes are actually advantageous? Do they actually help you to form muscle more quickly? do they help to preserve your muscles when you do cardio workouts and can they be used as a substitute for Meals?
Posted by: Hooah Nov 3 2016, 12:42 AM
QUOTE(Solo Mission @ Nov 2 2016, 07:35 PM)

Is it true that Protein shakes are actually advantageous? Do they actually help you to form muscle more quickly? do they help to preserve your muscles when you do cardio workouts and can they be used as a substitute for Meals?
Protein shakes are advantageous if you're not already getting enough protein in your diet. A lot of estimates say 1g per pound of bodyweight but I think a lot of that depends on the person, too. Your body doesn't see different types of protein as different, so as long as you're getting enough then you'll form muscle (provided you're stimulating your muscle, too). So whether you're eating chicken or beans or drinking protein doesn't matter. Idk what you mean preserve your muscles during cardio. You're only losing muscle during cardio if you're not eating enough in general. Basically protein is protein, shakes are just an easy way to get it. It's not a substitute for meals though. There's lots of compounds that you're only gonna get from normal foods
Posted by: bey Nov 3 2016, 01:06 AM
QUOTE(Hooah @ Nov 3 2016, 12:42 AM)

QUOTE(Solo Mission @ Nov 2 2016, 07:35 PM)

Is it true that Protein shakes are actually advantageous? Do they actually help you to form muscle more quickly? do they help to preserve your muscles when you do cardio workouts and can they be used as a substitute for Meals?
Protein shakes are advantageous if you're not already getting enough protein in your diet. A lot of estimates say 1g per pound of bodyweight but I think a lot of that depends on the person, too. Your body doesn't see different types of protein as different, so as long as you're getting enough then you'll form muscle (provided you're stimulating your muscle, too). So whether you're eating chicken or beans or drinking protein doesn't matter. Idk what you mean preserve your muscles during cardio. You're only losing muscle during cardio if you're not eating enough in general. Basically protein is protein, shakes are just an easy way to get it. It's not a substitute for meals though. There's lots of compounds that you're only gonna get from normal foods
Posted by: sounds Nov 3 2016, 01:12 AM
Solo Mission,
This is Adam from BodyBuilding community. I would like to suggest you 2 protein shakes of 1K calories each a day. Also a good pre workout like White flood and Hemavol. Creatine as well post workout and a good post workout whey protein shake. 1 hour cardio a day and 1 hour of hard weight lifting session.
Posted by: NarNumbers Nov 3 2016, 02:03 AM
QUOTE(Hooah @ Nov 2 2016, 08:42 PM)

QUOTE(Solo Mission @ Nov 2 2016, 07:35 PM)

Is it true that Protein shakes are actually advantageous? Do they actually help you to form muscle more quickly? do they help to preserve your muscles when you do cardio workouts and can they be used as a substitute for Meals?
Protein shakes are advantageous if you're not already getting enough protein in your diet. A lot of estimates say 1g per pound of bodyweight but I think a lot of that depends on the person, too. Your body doesn't see different types of protein as different, so as long as you're getting enough then you'll form muscle (provided you're stimulating your muscle, too). So whether you're eating chicken or beans or drinking protein doesn't matter. Idk what you mean preserve your muscles during cardio. You're only losing muscle during cardio if you're not eating enough in general. Basically protein is protein, shakes are just an easy way to get it. It's not a substitute for meals though. There's lots of compounds that you're only gonna get from normal foods
Sums it up pretty well. Everyone's optimal protein and calorie intakes are different depending on your age, body type, health status, activity level, etc but there are calculations online you can use to give a rough calculation. If you want a really acurate number you can go to a dietitian / physician for tests. That 1g per pound of bodyweight estimate is a really high amount and is definitely more than enough.
Anytime your protein intake is below your body's optimal amount you're going to be losing muscle. Even if you don't do cardio and is just sitting around, you're still going to lose muscle if not consuming adequate protein.
Whey protein is a complete protein so in terms of protein amounts it is equivalent to alternatives like meat, beans, eggs, etc. Some say whey protein is even more easily digestible than meat. However, like Hooah said, if you're just having only protein shakes you're missing a lot of other important nutrients that are found in whole foods as well as Carbs which are important post workout too since your glycogen stores will be empty.
Basically, take protein shakes if you're not consuming enough protein in your everyday diet but don't substitute them for meals unless you really don't have time to have a meal.
Full Meal > Protein Shake > Nothing at all
~ Nutrition & Dietetics student
Posted by: 4everbulking Nov 3 2016, 03:18 AM
QUOTE(NarNumbers @ Nov 2 2016, 08:03 PM)

QUOTE(Hooah @ Nov 2 2016, 08:42 PM)

QUOTE(Solo Mission @ Nov 2 2016, 07:35 PM)

Is it true that Protein shakes are actually advantageous? Do they actually help you to form muscle more quickly? do they help to preserve your muscles when you do cardio workouts and can they be used as a substitute for Meals?
Protein shakes are advantageous if you're not already getting enough protein in your diet. A lot of estimates say 1g per pound of bodyweight but I think a lot of that depends on the person, too. Your body doesn't see different types of protein as different, so as long as you're getting enough then you'll form muscle (provided you're stimulating your muscle, too). So whether you're eating chicken or beans or drinking protein doesn't matter. Idk what you mean preserve your muscles during cardio. You're only losing muscle during cardio if you're not eating enough in general. Basically protein is protein, shakes are just an easy way to get it. It's not a substitute for meals though. There's lots of compounds that you're only gonna get from normal foods
Sums it up pretty well. Everyone's optimal protein and calorie intakes are different depending on your age, body type, health status, activity level, etc but there are calculations online you can use to give a rough calculation. If you want a really acurate number you can go to a dietitian / physician for tests. That 1g per pound of bodyweight estimate is a really high amount and is definitely more than enough.
Anytime your protein intake is below your body's optimal amount you're going to be losing muscle. Even if you don't do cardio and is just sitting around, you're still going to lose muscle if not consuming adequate protein.
Whey protein is a complete protein so in terms of protein amounts it is equivalent to alternatives like meat, beans, eggs, etc. Some say whey protein is even more easily digestible than meat. However, like Hooah said, if you're just having only protein shakes you're missing a lot of other important nutrients that are found in whole foods as well as Carbs which are important post workout too since your glycogen stores will be empty.
Basically, take protein shakes if you're not consuming enough protein in your everyday diet but don't substitute them for meals unless you really don't have time to have a meal.
Full Meal > Protein Shake > Nothing at all
~ Nutrition & Dietetics student
Posted by: Joko189 Nov 3 2016, 04:04 AM
COCAINE GET ME HYPE BEFORE WORKOUT
Posted by: Hooah Nov 3 2016, 04:10 AM
QUOTE(Joko189 @ Nov 2 2016, 11:04 PM)

COCAINE GET ME HYPE BEFORE WORKOUT
same
Posted by: cawe Nov 3 2016, 07:33 AM
didn't realize this was bodybuilding.com
Posted by: Datrumetal Nov 3 2016, 08:02 AM
Maximize that anabolic window (30-45 minutes post workout) with a whey isolate protein shake for sure. Its one of the fastest digesting protein sources out there and gets those amino acids into the bloodstream faster mate. If you want to add in a fast digesting carbohydrate into the mix that's low in sugar such as maltodextrin and a little bit of good 'ole creatine monohydrate you'll be on your way to gainzville. I use to be a personal trainer/crossfit coach and did a few physique competitions back in my gap year between undergrad and MBA.
Posted by: Sus Nov 3 2016, 12:02 PM
i have a fitness thread
Posted by: Scleritis Nov 3 2016, 12:54 PM
QUOTE(Datrumetal @ Nov 3 2016, 08:02 AM)

If you want to add in a fast digesting carbohydrate into the mix that's low in sugar such as maltodextrin
Dextrose is better no?
Posted by: Neil Nov 3 2016, 03:34 PM
QUOTE(Sus @ Nov 3 2016, 12:02 PM)

i have a fitness thread
This is not a reliable source, please ignore.
Posted by: Orc Leader Nov 3 2016, 09:12 PM
taking whey protein shakes as a form of meal substitute is called slim fast. its not a new practice. taking whey protein shakes to supplement your diet if you are not getting enough protein or taking them after a vigorous workout is what you should aim for. be careful of the sugar content as well as that could turn out to be a lot of extra garbage going into your body that you dont need.
Posted by: Datrumetal Nov 4 2016, 08:26 AM
QUOTE(Scleritis @ Nov 3 2016, 12:54 PM)

QUOTE(Datrumetal @ Nov 3 2016, 08:02 AM)

If you want to add in a fast digesting carbohydrate into the mix that's low in sugar such as maltodextrin
Dextrose is better no?
I don't know why, but my body seemed to recover better with maltodextrin than dextrose. Dextrose is great though

and they function in essentially the same manor. Dextrose is considered a monosaccharide ("Simple" carbohydrate) and maltodextrin is considered a polysaccharide ("complex" carbohydrate) but the bonds between the molecules in maltodextrin are so weak it digests in almost the same time. Also quick clarification on the "low in sugar" remark- both dextrose and maltodextrin break down into sugars, i just meant carb sources that require a little bit of digestion to turn into sugars.
The really simple sugars like glucose and fructose that are found in high fructose corn syrup can serve their purpose intraworkout though- i Like to mix gatorade powder with amino acids to sip during lifts.
*note these comments are in reference to SUPPLEMENTATION intra/post workout. Definitely aim to get the vast majority of your macros through real, healthy food as mentioned in comments above*
Hope this helps, just my 2 cents
Posted by: Sus Nov 6 2016, 04:10 PM
i like the vanilla ice cream flavor i used it with chocolate soy milk it taste great
Posted by: palb0 wanch0p Nov 7 2016, 07:30 PM
aasaaaarghhh only tyme i need protein shakes is after im dun trashin the legs of ur 0l dear u lil chit
Posted by: Dripping Ink Jan 26 2017, 01:58 PM
Protein shakes are def the way to go.
Posted by: GIGGS Jan 27 2017, 01:17 AM
essential if you wanna build muscle mass
Posted by: Tommy Jan 29 2017, 01:02 PM
just bulk my shit up
Posted by: Aminafuck Jun 28 2022, 12:59 PM
Just to add some more info:
I use "Designer Whey" Natural -- no flavor or sweetener.
The brand name of the Pasteurized Egg White is called, "AllWhites." Not such a great name.
And I use the Cuisinart Automatic Frozen Yogurt / Ice Cream / Sorbet Maker Model ICE-20 1 - 1/2 quart capacity
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